tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post2023006023802566781..comments2024-01-05T13:46:40.634-08:00Comments on northshorewoman: Tilikum means friendnorthshorewomanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07390144327668656601noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-77008202673293485972010-02-28T14:18:00.845-08:002010-02-28T14:18:00.845-08:00ML, thanks for the link; the article makes clear i...ML, thanks for the link; the article makes clear in my mind that there is no place for these majestic beings in contained tanks for entertainment. I read the other article that it has a link to, about the orca/killer whale being the most toxic whale, and that made me feel both horrified and dismayed, to say the least. What are we doing to ourselves and creatures? <br /><br />TofB, yes, media influences us to a great deal, especially when one did not grow up with a strong circle of female relatives.northshorewomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07390144327668656601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-47988992119504188662010-02-27T14:35:39.951-08:002010-02-27T14:35:39.951-08:00Interesting post in that you begin to wonder if an...Interesting post in that you begin to wonder if and how much this type of media really affected and influenced you (or not) I am sure it did. I am an admirer of Helen Gurley Brown the editor of Cosmo for her business sense and good editing skills<br />As far as the killer whale tragedy, I feel sorry for both the whale and her vicitmtasteofbeiruthttp://www.tasteofbeirut.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-58666304797661468932010-02-27T11:20:04.566-08:002010-02-27T11:20:04.566-08:00Taina, did you see some of the scientific reports ...Taina, did you see some of the scientific reports regarding killer whale behaviour, such as this one:<br /><br />http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/02/100225-shamu-kills-trainer-dawn-brancheau-sea-world/marja-leenahttp://www.marja-leena-rathje.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-70160555582212389062010-02-27T08:39:54.814-08:002010-02-27T08:39:54.814-08:00Hello ML, you're right. I think you said it we...Hello ML, you're right. I think you said it well. Age doesn't necessarily translate to being mentor material. I only need think of all those cadaveer thin women floating around the sidewalks of Yonge and Bloor with their faces pulled and lips puffed. Absolutely media plays such a big role. That stupid More magazine, for example. It puts even more pressure on aging women to deny that aging. <br /><br />Lucky you to have had a great female teacher in high school. This is crucial, I believe. <br /><br />The orcas are so beautiful but they belong in the oceans. I have heard from others that it is quite awesome to actually see them while one stands on the beaches of BC. <br /><br />Hello 20th C woman, yes, I think it was Helen Gurley Brown who re-fashioned the Cosmopolitan vision to Cosmo girl. <br /><br />I was thinking about your second paragraph, and it called to mind, do women then in older years seek more of a hermit existence because of this hub existence they have been part of for so long? I see some older Finnish women do this. I have fears I may be going this route,too ;-)<br /><br />Having my own adult daughter, I think media and peers influence young women more than their moms do. <br /><br />Hello Merche, I've heard young women today in my city in Northwestern Ontario sound just like those California valley girls on those cloned tv shows that I can't tell apart, so the phenomena of females modeling themselves on tv characters seems enduring!<br /><br />I have noticed that it is different in Europe, there seems less of a focus (in general) on the crafting of identity (although this may be changing). <br /><br />The clip is so shocking because the girl seems so young and she gets back on the Orca after this near death experience! What sort of trainer is she--more like eye candy for the (male) audience members.northshorewomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07390144327668656601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-68067192434703169202010-02-26T21:16:48.050-08:002010-02-26T21:16:48.050-08:00I also used to be a fan of "Seventeen" m...I also used to be a fan of "Seventeen" magazine, not so much of "Cosmopolitan". I did notice, however, living in Canada, that the media had a great influence in our teenage personalities. When I realized that I, and my friends, were talking like the characters of a sitcom, I knew something was very wrong... Actually, returning to Europe saved me! Re the orcas I agree with you that those beautiful--because, they ARE beautiful--killer whales should be freed. When I was in Orlando I did see that Waterworld show but I felt very sorry for them being used as clowns. I saw the video--thank goodness, the girl survived--but it was horrible! Especially,the flippant voice of the speaker. THAT really shocked me. Hugs, M.Merche Pallaréshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00863932352403193656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-72730485657096844062010-02-26T11:48:32.749-08:002010-02-26T11:48:32.749-08:00When I was young Cosmopolitan was just a second ra...When I was young Cosmopolitan was just a second rate fashion magazine. I guess it morphed into this sex oriented monstrosity because it didn't make it in fashion. <br /><br />I think women derive both strengths and weaknesses from the tendency they have to want to belong to groups. Men can go it alone more readily (though they usually want one woman beside them). Women generally need a social community that they can fit, and so they conform to something that they regard as a norm.<br /><br />If young girls could be encouraged to make life choices independent of the current paradigm of what they "ought to do" -- e g, be a homemaker, have a career, go to church, be sexy, join a team, be a feminist, don't be a feminist, and so on, we might see them truly liberated.20th Century Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11432147267959308192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-990527249720913076.post-48623346355370311782010-02-26T10:54:42.841-08:002010-02-26T10:54:42.841-08:00Good post with much food for thought! I continue t...Good post with much food for thought! I continue to be appalled at how many young (even older) women are misled by the Cosmo and popular media image - it says something for the latters' strength. Teenagers are normal in questioning their parents values and their mom's looks along with it. (I too thought a bit like you about my old-fashioned Finnish mother.) Women are getting better educated but in some areas seem to be losing the battle, not just because of conservative politics but also in succumbing to the mass media ideal of how a woman should look and behave. (I'm not saying this well in such a short space.)<br /><br />I was fortunate in having a supportive woman art teacher in high school who encouraged me on to art school. In junior high, I remember one semester being put into an all boys art class for scheduling reasons. I was too shy to deal with this rough bunch of boys, though the male teacher was nice enough. I opted out of that class after a while.<br /><br />As for orcas, I believe they are misnamed as killer whales. They used to be abundant on our shores here but numbers have been dropping. The killer instinct must emerge when they are held captive and treated so against their natural environment. When I read this news yesterday, I admit feeling more sorry for the orca.marja-leenahttp://www.marja-leena-rathje.infonoreply@blogger.com